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Well, I for one, enjoy Fiona Apple's music. As for her
lifestyle... I'm not sure. In many ways, yes, she is quite
hypocritical and obnoxious, BUT she has never claimed to be a
role model. She even admits this. Every single person has
faults, no one claims to be perfect (least of all Fiona). I do
find the title of this site, "I Hate Fiona Apple" quite
offensive though. Has the creator of this site known Fiona
personally? Has anyone else that "bashes" her? I seriously
doubt it... All I can say is that, yes, you can not like what
for she stands for, but her music in my opinion is FAR beyond
hating. From what I've read and seen on Fiona her life has been
hell and of course she feels she needs pity. She seems to
"falunt" it at times, but you can NOT help but feel sympathy
for someone who has been raped at such an early age. I
personally think she has a lot of inner demons to conquer and
this is the way she is finding herself. It may not be the
correct view of society's standards, but this is HER life. This
is the way she chooses to be. Any person who makes such
hauntingly beautiful, mature music at her age such as she needs
a *tad* bit of respect.
I still cannot figure out why this site was created if it was
"not intended to be taken seriously". A good laugh now and then
for you? This is blatant criticize and making fun of... No
matter WHO the person is, celebrity or not, I do not think
anyone should make fun of or criticize unless they are perfect
themselves. I guess what I'm saying is the world has enough
criticism and hate and that IS to be taken seriously. I respect
her music and I respect what she does and so should everyone
else even with her faults. God intended us NOT to be perfect,
to learn from our mistakes. Hopefully, in the future Fiona will
learn this. Take this into consideration, please. In
conclusion, I think you should change your motto of this site.
Millions of people do the SAME thing Fiona does, yet she is the
celebrity, and we feel we can criticize her because she's well
known. LOOK AT ALL OF US. You can dislike her lifestyle, but
don't criticize her music. If you don't like what she says or
her actions then dislike THOSE along with the millions of
people in this world that do the EXACT same thing. Oh yeah,
thanks if you've read all of this and just haven't skipped
around : )
I always liked Fiona's music, but after her MTV speech I had
no respect for her. While I comtinue to enjoy her moaning and
whining on CD, in real life it just isn't as charming. I found
your page hilariously clever. Amanda's top ten reasons were
very witty and the quotes showed Miss Apple's true stupidity.
Mad props on this page guys =)
Your site is right to the point and organized
brilliantly,however,her songs tell alot about her.When she was
twelve her home was broke into and she was raped so her mother
gave her a book of poems by Maya Angelou to boost her
confidence. If I was her I,ll be cautious and my personality
may be the same think about that.
-Take care!
Whoever, Did you make that page just to get attention?
Cause if you did it's pretty pathetic. You waste you time
dedicating a page to hate a woman who had a lot of trouble when
she grew up. She was rapped you know. That is horrifying
experience to go through. She set's an example. A good one. She
can't help people like you who can't get a meaning out of what
she says. By the way she went on television to explain what she
meant about Tori Amos. She was not putting her down. She was
just telling people the direct truth. Along with her exceptance
speech at the Mtv Music Video Awards. Her speech was saying to
younger people to go with them selves, and not follow some bad
public figures. Leave her alone. By the way the graph you made
was not accurate, you probably asked all you friends. They
probably hate her too. So Get a Fucking Life!!!!!
Hello..... well, I think your page totally kicks ass! I
thought I was the only one that totally disliked
Fiona......well, I actually use to listen to her music, then I
got sick of her whinnig about how she can't get guys and how
sorry she feels for herself. Fiona should realize that not
everything in life is nice and dandy and that she has it way
better than hundreds. She's such a loser. Secondly, Fiona
should wash-off that pathetic look she always has on her
face....sheesh....is she a total pathetic moron, or what?????..
I also can't believe that she changed her mind about the Spice
Girls just because of what Madonna said. She should grow up and
not be a narcistic little bitch that goes along with the flow.
Oh........maybe I'll become anorexic so people will like me
more!! yeah!!! I want to be just like
Fiona-I-suck-cock-Apple!!!
hEY!! Your pAge rockS I tOtAlly AgrEe with just AbOut
everythinG said heRe!!!! YOu RulE!!
Hello, I just wanted to let you know that I respect your
opinions about Fiona Apple, I'm not going to email you just to
cuss you out because of what you believe, like others have. I'm
a fan of Fiona's, not really the complaining Fiona, but
definetly the pianist and vocalist Fiona. She is a great
musician, but she does have some major personal issues to
settle. The one thing I am opposed to on this page is your
strong use of the word HATE. I mean don't you think that's
pretty strong to use against someone you don't know personally.
It's okay to dislike her for her personal life, but if you
hated everyone in the music for the things they said and did, I
don't think we'd like anybody. Thanks, for hearing me out, and
I hope to get a response from you.
Samecia Sanders
i came to this site only to see what you had to say, as i
am a huge fiona fan. i can understand why you feel the way you
do about her, although i don't happen to agree with you. and i
was not offended by your site, until i saw your doctored
photographs. if you want to make fun of what see says or does,
be my guest. BUT DO NOT EVER MAKE FUN OF SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY
WERE RAPED AND HAD THE COURAGE TO COME FORWARD ABOUT IT. that
is not whining, it's called being strong. do you have any idea
how hard it is to tell people something like that. i do. so if
you want to make fun of fiona, find something else to make fun
of her about, not something that was NOT her fault. and don't
make fun of people with cerebral palsy either.
I think you are hilarous!!! I am a Fiona fan, I must
admit, but the way she lives her supposedly "role model" life
gets on my damn nerves. I choose not to read articles or watch
interviews. I just listen to the CD and enjoy the lyrics that
are well written, to me. You made some very good points and
cracked me up with your come backs. Keep up the good work and
ignore the fucking idiots who choose to scream, yell and miss
spell all their BS. I'm sure you do already. Anyway, It's very
well said and organized. Good work!!!! (Are you a hotty? I want
to see you. If you don't like my asking, ignore me,K?)
Although I adore Fiona Apple, I find this site to be
funny as hell. I think that Tori is a wonderful songstress and
a beautiful person inside and out, but everyone is entitled to
their own opinion (even if it's not a good one). Your page is
very amusing, but it's MEAN! How would you like it if someone
made a page like this about you? Have your opinion, but you are
subjecting yourself to the unplesant retorts of the more
sensless and uncontrollable of the numerous Fiona Fans by
displaying your opinion in such a crude, sanguinary manner.
God, I love big words :) Luv, Michelle
P.S. This sends an electronic voodoo curse to your website
provider! ;p
why is it that ppl tend to bring a person down when their
envious of that person or simply don't have anything better to
do with their super pathetic lives? i pity you. you obviously
don't know a great artist when u see one
OH FIONA, WHAT A WICKED LITTLE VAMP YOU ARE. YOUR MUSIC
AND ATTITUDE IS JUST SOOO DARING!!! HOW CAN YOU READ MAYA
ANGELOU AND GAZE INTO THE MIRROR AT THE SAME TIME? GET OVER
YOURSELF!! EVERYONE ELSE DID!
I have to admit, I respect your courage and intellegence
on creating a web page to express your opinions on Fiona Apple.
And, I'll have to admit that you did a pretty good job.
Most of your page is stuff about bashing her whinning. Don't
you think that creating a web page about how much someone sucks
is considered whinning, also?
Or maybe you're just jealous that she has tons of talent and
intellegence and all you can do is waste time creating web
pages while everyone else is out getting a life.
Editors' Response : Hmm, well, I guess you're not included
in the ranks of those who are "out getting a life", since
you're sitting at home (or work or school) visiting HATE
WEBSITES.
OK, I'm a Fiona fan. I like her music, but her personality
could use a little improvement. So what? Who says that just
because someone's famous, they have to be perfect? You have
every right to do what you want with your time, but this is
ridiculous. Get a life! I also seriously wonder about the brain
capacity of someone who sits at their computer all day and
doctors pictures of a 19-year-old GIRL. I also wonder how many
of you anti-Fiona fans have ever listened to her music. From
someone as young as she is, it is amazingly mature and
meaningful. I don't always agree with what she says outside of
her music, but at least she says what she feels and doesn't
hold back. THAT is what many of us (me at least) admire about
her. She doesn't say what you want to hear, like all the
Michael Jordan advertisers out there who will choke back
whatever they think and smile and do nothing except promote an
image that people, like Fiona, who speak their minds, are
"bad".
Gwen
Maybe you should use some of that time you might spend
doctoring pictures of Fiona, and look into all those "I can't
believe she said it"s and check the rest of the conversation or
article and she if maybe some of it was said as sarcasm,
because to me, that's what many of them looked like.
Editors' Response : Actually, those photos took all of about
thirty minutes to alter back in March. We haven't made any new
ones since. And she's a 20-year-old WOMAN, FYI.
Some really good points have been made, but with the
exception of Morgan and the creators, the rest of it was pretty
unimpressive. I'm not kissing your ass, creators - I think
you're wrong. Not because she sounds whiny or insulting. She
definitely does. O.K., so there's an unconfirmed allegation
that she talked trash about Tori and Janeane. But we can't
fight their fights. She's a pop star, a fairly good one at
that. Your contributors(those that sent you mail) sound really
obsessed, and it only makes me wonder why the hell a little
person named Fiona could inspire such anger/silly adoration.
Perhaps your favorite, Stereolab, could play the fame game
better. I'm sure a lot of people could articulate themselves
better than Fiona has. Everything she says seems to come
straight from her heart, soul, ass - whatever - she doesn't
think before she speaks. Or maybe she does and it's just not
all coming together for her in her head. That's not uncommon
for anyone, especially scarred teenagers who have a penchant
for telling everyone what's on their mind.
YAWN. People are only laughing at you, not with you. I
don't even have to insult you; you do enough of a job making
yourself look foolish.
Well, I think she's immensely talented, but she has the
same kind of problem that I do. She doesn't thouroughly think
out her comment before she says it. One one hand, it's
admirable, and refreshing...on the other side, it sounds like a
preachy load of crap (c'mon, Fiona, I know you can think of
something better to say than 'this world is bullshit', I know
cause I've heard you do it). I think a lot of her fans do feel
like they have to protect her, and that's mostly because she
seems so vulnerable, and apparently is very sensitive to
criticism. I have no problem with anything you've done here,
because I know, first hand, that hate is fun. Damn fun. So
farbeit from me to deprive anyone of the joys that come with
senseless hatred. Again, I say, she's very talented...but needs
to learn to rationalize her thoughts..er...speech. WHAT DID SHE
SAY ABOUT TORI?...I can only hope it was another mental/verbal
blunder, for if it wasn't, I'll be forced to join you in
anticipating her death. -
KTtheConquerer
Fiona is a whinning bitch, but, damn, I still want to see
her naked. I mean real naked. Naked and doing nasty things with
turkey drumsticks. Umm.....naked Fiona and
drumsticks....ahh....
You call her Fifi, too? I sent a message in already, but
I thought I'd make an offer. I've spent some time dissecting
the things I hate about her. I thought it was only fair to find
out more about her than just hate her on instinct. In doing
this, I found enough to write a book about why this kid doesn't
deserve the status she's been given. I don't have any articles,
I don't keep them, but if someone could send me copies of some,
I could write an essay on the reasons people shouldn't listen
to Fiona Apple for you. I'm sorry if this doesn't make much
sense--it's almost 1:15 am. Long day. Anyway, I also have a
little information most people don't have. A friend of mine is
a studio technician and briefly worked with Fiona last year. I
can honestly say that this girl does not have much talent. My
fifteen-year-old cousin can play those piano parts with her
eyes closed, and she hasn't been playing as long as Fifi claims
to have been playing. So let me know if you'd like a 'report'.
I wanted to send you one through here, but I figured it would
be too long and I don't have the information in front of me
from the articles. Again, great job on the page. Stereolab
rules. And so does Tori Amos.
Amanda Kulp again
YES!!!! THANK YOU!!! I've been looking for an anti-Fiona
brat page since her expressionless face hit the tv. It's so
great to see other people who hate her, not because of her
music (although it puts me to sleep, personally), but for her
pre-adolescent pity-me-I'm-an-underfed-victim crap. I had the
letter in RS about Fiona going into rehab. I was very happy to
see it on here. I just thought it was strange that someone
taking psychiatric medication would admit to drinking alcohol.
Anyone who takes medicine that alters your brain chemistry
should know that drinking alcohol with it can cause seizures.
Nevermind that it was tested on animals, because the FDA
wouldn't approve it otherwise, especially if it's prescription
medication! Either she's really stupid or desperate for that
kind of attention only adolescent girls want. I think it's
both. Did you see her on Rolling Stone's ABC special? If that
doesn't prove she just wants attention, then I don't know what
else does. I hate to say it, but I can tolerate Alanis more
than her. Thanks again for the page--it made my day.
Amanda Kulp
Fiona Apple is a nitwit tripping over what little fame
she somehow stumbled upon. She poses as the "girl power!"
anti-star and yet she still manages to participate in the very
world she so cleverly called "bullshit." All she's really
capable of is contradiction and music so friggin' dull it makes
the Wallflowers seem like radicals. I've never heard a more
humorless and dry record than Tidal. From the first song on
down, it's an absolute bore and it's a shame that her potential
as a songwriter doesn't live up to her talent as a singer. The
only people defending her can easily be placed into two
categories: 1. Lonely guys who think that one day they'll grow
up and marry her and kiss all her boo-boos away and 2. Girls
that can write the dull poetry...but just can't sing the dull
poetry as well as her.
I noticed your website below numerous others following my
Yahoo! search and I was curious. I disregarded your warnings
because I enjoy reading differences of opinions on this
musician. She is controversial, no doubt, and has contradicted
herself in more than one instance. Yet, I do not understand the
desire to defile her reputation. I mean, this site obviously
has a multitude of critical comments and examples of her
hypocrisy, so don't you think that most people have assessed
their own opinions about her from other media sources? All your
arguments are based upon previous articles, television, or
other cases in which Fiona has been put under the gun (E!
Howard Stern interview). I understand that you don't want
people to take you seriously, but your motives are. You want to
prove to the "Appleheads" that their obsessive
infatuation/worship with/of the artist makes them "ignorant",
am I not correct?
I believe that if you feel so strongly about this subject
(since you've taken the time to create a website and respond to
"intelligent" emails) then you must have some desire to be
taken seriously. "Hate" is a serious word, just as "love" is.
I'd like to offer some helpful criticism: If you despise
something, you shouldn't emulate it. You are making a laughable
contradiction yourselves. You say that you shouldn't be taken
seriously, yet I've gathered through your emails that you
staunchly dislike Fiona's personality and actions. You try to
convince others of your reasons, but you continually regress
into stating that your opinions should be taken with a grain of
salt. Well, then why make a website at all? Why respond? Why
care about anything that Fiona says? After all, nothing can be
taken seriously, right? I'm not an avid fan of Fiona, nor do I
"hate" her, but I don't tolerate contradictory "anti-artist
pages". I mean, if you're going to devote an entire region of
the WWW to an anti-Apple exposé, then you might as well
do it without resembling pro-Apple "ignorance". You can't
convince me to alter my opinion so that I view Fiona as merely
a pathetic, unjustified "bad, bad girl" when you have no esteem
for your own. Thanks for giving me a chance to voice myself.
Editors' Response : You're right -- it does seem a bit
contradictory to be serious and also say people should take our
opinions with a grain of salt. And if you don't like
"anti-artist" pages, fine. If you like Fiona, fine. But, if you
don't know, it takes virtually no effort to "devote a whole
page on the WWW" to anything. Just a bored Saturday evening
here and there, when we don't have enough money to do anything
else.
You claim people have probably already made up their minds
about Fiona, and that they have had plenty of opportunities to
see her from every side, but we don't agree. Most interviews
are just fluff pieces that put up with her bullshit statements
like "I decided if I was going to be exploited, I would do the
exploiting myself" or whatever it was she said in SPIN/ Rolling
Stone. The PR people do their jobs, we do our anti-PR
jobs.
We don't want to convince you to hate Fiona. We don't really
hate her ourselves. But would you visit a page that was called
the "I Think Fiona Is Not So Nifty And Sometimes She Makes An
Ass Of Herself" page. Of course not. Sensationalism sells. Just
remember that there <are> a lot of teenybopper
Fiona-wannabes out there, and it makes us so happy to get hate
mail from them because we have denegrated their idol to a more
human, less-than-perfect state.
Well done, you have actually created a hate page with
credible, witty, and intelligent arguements. I personally do
not hate Fiona. Some of her lyrics are quite poetic and her
voice is refreshing. However, an emaciated girl parading around
in underwear was not the same inspirational image I had
perceived from her music. Yes, her image was
influential.......to my eating disorder. This led me to the
conclusion that to write such powerful lyrics, one must
currently be in an altered state of mind, whether it be by form
of depression or substance abuse. Fiona has definite talent, as
a writer, but I fear that continuing to present herself in this
manner may be a catalyst for various mental disorders. Seeing
"Criminal" after an exhausting month long hospitalization
certainly did not encourage me to remain in "remission." I
cannot determine whether Fiona has a disease, if any, but I
probably would have more successful if she remained FULLY
clothed. Sadly, protruding ribcages and hipbones are the
"ideal" of society, but I regret fitting in with the "norm"
which has destroyed my life, although I am only a teenager. If
Fiona wants to do something positive and "saint" like, she
should use her publicity to promote an independent, healthy,
and intelligent female which does not have to prove her
worthiness through sexual appeal.
It seems most people, even Fiona haters think she's a
good songwriter. Well, i don't. Just because she's young and
write songs doesn't mean she's talented. 5-year-old kids do
compose thier songs. Anyway, your site is about her ATTITUDE. i
love your site!!!!!!!! She was not the most miserable person in
the world and still isn't! Why should we listen to her
'private' whining? Why should we trying to understand her? Do
we have to feel guilty about her childhood? Absolutely not.
Reading Fiona's interview she's like "I'm special, I'm genius,
I was a child prodigy. and all of you stupid people will never
know.". Damn. Hey, Fiona, don't you see a whole lot of people
that "Special", "Talented" and "Weird" even than you in the
music scene? and i think you're dying to be some kind of
spokesperson of teenage girls. maybe you think you already are.
And if you do, remember this --
"PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE THIS WORLD BULLSHIT!"
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